Misogyny vs Misogynoir 

Written by on 14/12/2020

So you may have caught our show on 13/12 where we had the lovely ladies from The Rebound Podcast on to talk about Misogyny vs Misogynoir, if you didn’t make sure you listen back on mixcloud because it was a goodun. Link below!  https://www.mixcloud.com/TribeUrbanRadio/playlists/black-card-talks-tribeurbanradio/

As such this blog post is dedicated to the learning we took from the conversation so first of all let’s define the terms: 

Misogyny: a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.

Misognoir- dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against black women.

So what is the difference? One speaks to all women and one speaks to the specific feeling of hatred towards Black Women. Misogyny / (Misogynoir) shows how sexism and (racism) manifest in (black) women’s lives to create intersecting forms of oppression. Now you might be thinking why do we need another word, to define how this affects Black women, don’t worry we will get to that. But before we do it is important to note that the difference between Mysogyny / Misogynoir and Sexism is the former is a feeling the latter is the action. I.E. Where it comes from vs what it produces. This might seem “a bit much”, like surely hatred for women is too strong of a root cause of Sexism, surely ignorance is part of it? To put arguments like this to bed I will refer to how we discuss racism in 2020. The least racist is still racist. We cannot continue to excuse poor behaviour because people allegedly don’t know better because there the means to know better is available, hatred and prejudice is a choice and it is time to call out these wrongs for what they are. 


Now – why do we need a separate term for Mysogynoir? It is simple, there are levels to privilege. Malcolm X said it best “the most disrespected person in America is the black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the black woman. The most neglected person in America is the black woman”. In the line of privilege it goes able bodied White Man, then Man – whatever the colour, then Women, and then Women of Colour, but more specifically last in the pecking order is the Black Woman. The history of Feminism should prove enough to showcase why. So let’s get into it. When Black women used to ask to talk about their specific lived experience as part of the feminist movement and what the movement needed to do for them, they were silenced and told that we need to talk about the experiences of women and not Black women. This led to the finally understood terms of intersectionality. The idea that the interconnected nature of social categories such as race, class, and gender as they apply to a given individual or group, can overlap and cause double disadvantage. 


When speaking with Active on the show we asked “do you see yourself as A man and Black or as a Black Man?”, he said a Black Man. When we asked Ola Aweo she said “Black and A Woman”. Now we can go into multiple examples of Mysogynoir, Tiffany Haddish being paid for hosting the Grammy’s with “exposure” Serena Williams being portrayed as aggressive whilst playing Tennis whilst her opponents (often White) are painted as lady-like. In our opinion the fact of the matter is that there are still intersects of society that unfortunately the broader definitions of terms do not speak for and to and until we get there we will need to delineate further. Otherwise we should have stopped at Equality and Discrimination and not delineated by socio-economic background, age, race, class, religion, gender etc. 


But that’s our view, what is yours? #TheBlackCardTalks and get involved in the conversation!


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